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New York Giants passed on second-tier QBs because of draft grades

By many accounts, the New York Giants came into the 2024 NFL draft hoping to land a new franchise quarterback to unseat Daniel Jones.

They apparently had their eyes set on one player — North Carolina’s Drake Maye — and were willing to trade up to obtain him. Unfortunately, the teams at the top of the draft were not budging. Maye was eventually selected third overall by the New England Patriots.

Many thought the Giants would then look elsewhere, such as Michigan’s J.J. McCarthy, Michael Penix Jr. of Washington or Oregon’s Bo Nix.

Nothing doing. They passed on all three in the first round and would not get a chance at any of them in Round 2 as they were all gone by the 12th overall pick.

As the draft went on, it was thought that general manager Joe Schoen might add a “quarterback of the future” to develop (as the Jets did with Jordan Travis), but Jordan Raanan of ESPN reports none had a high enough grade for him to use a draft pick on.

When Patriots owner Robert Kraft said at the NFL’s annual meetings last month that “one way or another, I’d like to see us get a top-rate, young quarterback,” that should have been a sign. The teams with the first three picks — the Chicago Bears, Washington Commanders and Patriots — were going to land Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels and Maye, the top three quarterbacks in this draft.

At that point, Plan A for general manager Joe Schoen and Co. was to stay at No. 6 and select explosive LSU wide receiver Malik Nabers, which they did. The Giants didn’t have high enough grades on the second tier of quarterbacks — J.J. McCarthy, Michael Penix Jr. and Bo Nix — and grabbed a No. 1 receiver, which Jones has never had.

After the draft, Schoen — trying not to look defeated — reminded reporters of what he told them a few months back.

“Yeah, for me, I said it in January after the season. The expectation was Daniel would be our starter and we brought Drew Lock in to be his backup and Tommy (DeVito) has been the backup,” Schoen said. “So that’s where we are and that’s how we’ll move forward this season. Daniel is still under contract for three more years.

“As it sits today, that is where we are.”

Instead, the Giants used their six picks to fill in immediate needs. They grabbed a top playmaker for Jones in the first round in LSU wide receiver Malik Nabers and then addressed holes in the secondary on Day 2 with Minnesota safety Tyler Nubin and Kentucky cornerback Andru Phillips.

The final three picks were spent on a tight end (Penn State’s Theo Johnson), a running back/wide receiver/returner (Purdue’s Tyrone Tracy), and a linebacker (Darius Muasau of UCLA).

The swing-and-miss for a new franchise quarterback won’t really hurt the team in the short term. But after this season, with Jones’ contact winding down to the point where they can equitably part ways, Schoen will have to hit on that big deal.

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New York Giants meeting with Bo Nix, Spencer Rattler

The New York Giants may not get their shot at the top four quarterback prospects in the 2024 NFL draft but are making contingency plans in the event that plays out.

Those plans include top-30 visits with Oregon’s Bo Nix and South Carolina’s Spencer Rattler, who could each be available come pick No. 47 overall.

Nix struggled at Auburn before transferring to Oregon and establishing himself as a viable pro. NFL draft analyst Lance Zierlein gives a pro comparison of Tony Romo — something Giants fans probably don’t want to hear.

Rare five-year starting quarterback whose play has matured in front of our eyes. Nix displays the accuracy, arm talent and athleticism consistent with today’s brand of pro quarterback. He can be punctual in getting the ball out at the top of his drop or he can work through progressions and beat defenses with second-reaction plays. He throws with good velocity and puts the ball on the money when throwing on the move. Nix has shown great improvement with his pocket poise. He’s capable of moving the sticks as a scrambler or as part of the running game. Some of his gaudy production has been driven by the Oregon offense’s design, but his talent clearly stands out. I’ve harbored bias from watching the overwhelmed version of Nix during his Auburn days, but as the saying goes, “tape don’t lie.” Nix appears more than ready to attack the league with an NFL-caliber skill set.

Rattler, meanwhile, had less success after transferring to South Carolina from Oklahoma but still put up respectable numbers. Although Zierlein didn’t give him a pro comparison, he did note that the quarterback flashes, albeit inconsistently.

Four-year starter who took more starting snaps at South Carolina than he did at Oklahoma. Rattler will still flash glimpses of what he showed in his 2020 season as a Sooner but fails to consistently sustain the type of play that NFL teams look for. He lacks desired height for a pocket passer and doesn’t have enough arm strength to beat greedy NFL cover men. He was better than some of his 2023 numbers might indicate, as poor pass-blocking and drop-prone receivers often put him in bad spots. He can scramble and extend plays, but he’s not a dynamic runner and needs optimal protection and separation in order to work in rhythm. He needs an offense that can shrink the field so he can operate quickly and find his rhythm. He has the know-how but might not have the tape or traits to inspire confidence in projecting anything more than a QB2/3.

The Giants have done work on nearly every quarterback available in the draft and appear destined to select one at some point later this month.



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New York Giants select Olumuyiwa Fashanu in PFN’s consensus mock draft

With just under two weeks remaining until the 2024 NFL draft, most mocks have the New York Giants going in one of two directions: Wide receiver or quarterback.

Various trade scenarios have been discussed, but the end result is always the same. Either the Giants end up with an eventual Daniel Jones successor or a talented WR1, helping to boost an otherwise underwhelming skill position group.

But there have been occasional outliers — mocks where the Giants go in a completely unexpected direction and make picks that few others predict.

Such was the case in Pro Football Network’s recent “consensus mock draft” where the Giants added a new offensive lineman who wasn’t named Joe Alt.

6) New York Giants: Olumuyiwa Fashanu, OT, Penn State

Another team with a multitude of potential outcomes on Day 1, the New York Giants have offensive needs similar to those of the Chargers, but with the added caveat of a quarterback conundrum. Daniel Jones’ contract complicates a QB selection, but at least one PFN analyst has the franchise striking for a Michigan standout if available.

Wide receiver is also a distinct possibility, but if the team wants to evaluate Jones fully for life beyond this year, protection is key. Olu Fashanu has quietly gone about his business in this class, becoming something of a forgotten man. Yet, he’s a legitimate OT1 contender, and it shouldn’t be a surprise to see his highly intelligent brand of tackle play be valued highly on April 25.

If the Giants do opt for an offensive lineman at No. 6 overall, Fashanu deserves to be in the conversation. However, it seems highly unlikely given their other needs.

In Round 2, the Giants again forego a wide receiver, this time in favor of a quarterback.

47) New York Giants (from SEA): Bo Nix, QB, Oregon

The Giants have a major question mark at QB, and Bo Nix provides them with immediate competition for Daniel Jones. You can question whether this would be the high-upside move, but Jones was a swing for the fences while Nix feels a little more conventional. The value here is solid, and Nix has plenty of traits to like, but it feels like a middling upgrade over Jones at best.

These back-to-back picks wouldn’t exactly make Giants fans feel all warm and fuzzy.

The remainder of PFN’s projected Giants picks are as follows: running back Jonathon Brooks (Round 3), wide receiver Javon Baker (Round 4), running back Isaiah Davis (Round 5), and tight end Tip Reiman (Round 6).

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New York Giants land new QB-WR duo in latest Mel Kiper Jr. mock draft

The 2024 NFL draft is just over two weeks away and experts are beginning to finish their scouting and projections. That includes ESPN’s Mel Kiper Jr., who recently released what will be one of his final mocks of the year.

In it, Kiper has the Minnesota Vikings trading up to No. 5 for Michigan quarterback J.J. McCarthy, the fourth gunslinger taken over the first five picks.

At No. 6, Kiper projects LSU wide receiver Malik Nabers to the Giants.

The Giants’ pass offense fell apart last season as they finished 30th in the league in yards per dropback (4.9). Sure, most of that was without quarterback Daniel Jones, but he struggled in his six games before his ACL injury too, throwing three times as many interceptions (six) as touchdown passes. New York also ranked 30th in yards after the catch (1,601), which showed its need for outside playmakers.

Nabers could solve that problem, as he’s ferocious after the catch. He can run any route, creating separation on even the best cornerbacks. This is how the Giants could instantly turn around their offense.

Nabers has become the most common mock to the Giants in recent weeks and seems to be where the team is trending.

But in Round 2, Kiper projects the Giants land a potential Daniel Jones successor following a trade that sends two second-round picks (one in 2024 and one in 2025) to the Carolina Panthers in exchange for the No. 33 overall pick.

Enter Michael Penix Jr? Nope. Try Oregon’s Bo Nix.

Surprised? Maybe we shouldn’t be. Daniel Jones is locked in as the Giants’ starter in 2024, but the team could part ways with him next offseason, when his guaranteed money drops. And if general manager Joe Schoen and coach Brian Daboll are down on Jones after a tough 2023 that ended with a torn ACL in November, now is the time to start thinking ahead at the position.

Nix started a whopping 61 college games in stints at Auburn and Oregon, throwing for 15,352 total yards. He leveled up in 2023, with 45 touchdown passes and three picks while completing 77.4% of his throws. The question for NFL teams: Do you trust he has enough arm strength to succeed? He was asked to get the ball out quickly and around the line of scrimmage for the Ducks, putting his receivers in a position to make plays after the catch. That’s why I have a Round 2 grade on him. There likely will be a team that falls in love with Nix in this range; why can’t it be the Giants?

The Los Angeles Rams later traded up to No. 37 overall for Penix Jr.

Talk about an underwhelming second round for the Giants.

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New York Giants land WR, QB in latest mock draft by The 33rd Team

Following the conclusion of the regular season, the top of the order for the 2024 NFL draft had been set with the New York Giants slated to pick sixth overall.

Despite recent mock drafts trending toward the Giants taking a wide receiver at No. 6 overall, speculation about general manager Joe Schoen taking a quarterback persists.

In the latest mock draft from Marcus Mosher of The 33rd Team, the Giants get the best of both worlds, starting with a stud wide receiver.

With the sixth pick, the Giants select LSU’s Malik Nabers with the top three quarterbacks and Marvin Harrison off the board.

In most drafts, Malik Nabers would be the clear-cut No. 1 WR and a lock to be a top-five pick. But in this draft, he’s not even the second pass-catcher off the board. But the New York Giants get a steal at No. 6 with Nabers, who isn’t that far off from Marvin Harrison Jr. in the class. Nabers can be a bonafide No. 1 receiver for New York, which it has been missing since trading away Odell Beckham Jr. 

In Round 2, the Giants select Oregon quarterback Bo Nix (39th overall) followed by Houston offensive tackle Patrick Paul (47th overall).

The Giants, of course, acquired the 47th pick from the Seattle Seahawks in a trade for Leonard Williams.

A receiver like Nabers could certainly be the focal point of the Giants’ offense, especially if they choose to move on from running back Saquon Barkley and/or tight end Darren Waller.

While it’s uncertain how the selection of Nix would impact Daniel Jones in 2024, conventional logic suggests he’d eventually take over as the starter.

Selecting Paul, however, would signify either giving up on Evan Neal or moving him to the inside to play guard.

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11 prospects New York Giants could be eyeing at 2024 NFL Combine

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Bo Nix, 23, is an experienced hand who has started an NCAA record 61 games at quarterback and set a college football high for completion percentage (77.45) in 2023.

He’s not the biggest or the fastest in this year’s class but he might be the most refined and NFL-ready.

This draft could see a run on quarterbacks early (go figure) and the 6th overall pick could end up being a huge chip for Schoen.

With Daniel Jones’ Giants future in the balance, Schoen will have to weigh whether a player such as Nix — if available — is better suited to lead Big Blue going forward.

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